Curse

Kharmin · May 28, 2010, 07:08 PM // 19:08

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Originally Posted by gwkbar

I got banned.

I only used texmod, ksmod, and a /resign macro i made on my keyboard.

They said I didn't bot.

Hmm... why did you need a /resign macro?

gwkbar · May 28, 2010, 07:11 PM // 19:11

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Originally Posted by Kharmin

Hmm... why did you need a /resign macro?

i didn't need a /resign macro. it was just for convenience. my guild had a MVP program for vanquishes, so i just did zen daijun over and over and killed tigers to get the credit for a VQ. i'd Screen it, and i'd resign out and do it again.
i was @ my computer the whole time.

Kharmin · May 28, 2010, 07:16 PM // 19:16

Appeal to support; there has to be a reason. Perhaps they erred.

gwkbar · May 28, 2010, 07:42 PM // 19:42

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Originally Posted by Kharmin

Appeal to support; there has to be a reason. Perhaps they erred.

i hope so. they even said i didn't bot in their email, just the 3rd party apps.

so i'm appealing.

srsly, playin for 5 years........... and i've never botted or done anything against that user agreement.

Reverend Dr · May 28, 2010, 09:12 PM // 21:12

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Originally Posted by Essence Snow

U should already know the answer to this. Ofc it is match manipulation.

This happens every single early morning AT.

Without it American AT's simply won't take place.

Faer · May 28, 2010, 10:33 PM // 22:33

"Sharing Computers" should be added to the list of things that aren't allowed, due to how risky it is. Please review the following:

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Hello,

I understand that you have concerns about the termination of your Guild Wars account. I would like to provide you with additional information that may be of assistance as you review your individual situation:

The accounts that were terminated on May 26th used a disallowed third-party program at some time in the past. That doesn’t mean the program was used within the last few days or even within the last few weeks, because the scope of our bot detection efforts extended over a long period of time. So any of the 3,700 accounts that were closed may have used a forbidden third-party program this week, last week, or even a few months ago. Some people may have installed and uninstalled a forbidden program a while ago, thinking it would not be detected. Obviously that wasn’t the case. Others may share a computer and not realize that someone else added a bot program to their system. And still others may not realize that the program that they were told was “harmless” or even “approved by ArenaNet” is actually a cheat program.

Some players have said they believe that their account was terminated because they used certain third-party programs such as TexMod or Guild Wars Multi-Client. We do not action the accounts of people who use these programs because in their original form they do not give players an inherent gameplay advantage. That has been true in the past; that remains true today. But the accounts that were terminated were not using such programs. Either the players involved were knowingly using cheat programs, or they were using what they thought were benign programs that had been altered, turning them from acceptable to unacceptable.

Please keep in mind that ArenaNet and NCsoft do not “approve” third-party programs. We know that we cannot ensure the integrity of programs that we did not create. So while we do not take action on the users of programs that are known to not give a player any gameplay advantages, establishing the integrity of any third-party program falls to the individual user.

I hope that this additional information is helpful to you. Please note that this is the final communication we will be giving in response to this appeal. Subsequent communication about this matter will be closed without response.

Take care,

Lead GM Oghma
The Guild Wars Support Team

This exact same email is being sent out to everyone (that I have heard from as of yet) that had their ticket "escalated". In short, you're boned. However, I am posting this to point out a key bit of this response...

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Others may share a computer and not realize that someone else added a bot program to their system.

So, regardless of whether or not you screwed up, if anyone who has used your computer in the past X months did, you are going to be banned too. For good.

So, in summation...

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Originally Posted by Juze

If you still feel unjusticed, you can send NCSoft (ArenaNet) a support ticket here or email them at [email protected].

...don't even bother with this. We've been told over the years to contact support to appeal bans, but it seems the time for appeals is past. Whether or not you broke the rules, if your account got banned, it's likely staying that way. On top of that, you're not even allowed to buy a new Guild Wars account.

It's good that ArenaNet is taking botting seriously now, but come on...

Nerel · May 29, 2010, 08:03 AM // 08:03

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Originally Posted by Theocrat

So, in summation...
...don't even bother with this. We've been told over the years to contact support to appeal bans, but it seems the time for appeals is past. Whether or not you broke the rules, if your account got banned, it's likely staying that way. On top of that, you're not even allowed to buy a new Guild Wars account.

It's good that ArenaNet is taking botting seriously now, but come on...

From the thread that you linked...

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Originally Posted by Regina Buenaobra

If you purchase a brand new account, our Support Team will not take action on your account (i.e. ban it) so long as this new account remains free of any incidents requiring action from the Support Team. If you engage in activity that goes against the User Agreement and you are reported for it, this will attract the attention of the Support Team, at which point, they will take action if your account is found to have broken the User Agreement.

Juze · May 31, 2010, 06:03 PM // 18:03

I'll add some of this, thanks.

deadman_uk · Jun 01, 2010, 05:16 PM // 17:16

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Originally Posted by A11Eur0

Solution for the KSMod controversy: implement it in-game as a toggle-on option. Not the UT sounds but the high-res armors in-town.

I agree, I've been wanting this as an option ever since I suggested KSMod be made.

I use KSMod and Texmod. I only do this for graphical enhancements (I gain zero advantages over other players) so I should be ok? I've been playing GW for over 5 years, never botted, never used macros or broke the rules. My account works as I write this, but I am paranoid about it getting banned...

Kharmin · Jun 01, 2010, 05:26 PM // 17:26

Well, we all knew this (or guessed by now), but I thought I'd query just for the official response:

Hello,

Xfire does not interact with Guild Wars and is fine to use. It is not connected with the recent botting suspensions. Please let us know if you have any further questions.

Regards,
GM xxxxxxxxx
The Guild Wars Support Team

Ka Tet · Jun 01, 2010, 05:34 PM // 17:34

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Originally Posted by Reverend Dr

I've posted this in the other thread, but haven't received a response and would really like one.

Is signing up extra guild for AT's, extra guilds that you know are going to end up forfeiting considered match manipulation? While if enough people do it, you can end up with an AT that gives more QP's, on the other hand the early morning AT's (which are the only ones we can ever make) need enough of these guilds for an AT to even take place.

As long as you type /conga, it should be fine.

luetkemd · Jun 03, 2010, 09:09 PM // 21:09

This thread mostly discusses 3rd party software, so my question is a little off topic, but seemed to fit here anyways.

Last week a friend asked me to play some RA with him. That seemed odd since the matches are random. He said if we hit "enter battle" at the exact same time, there was a chance we'd play together. We did that and it worked maybe 30% of the time. I suppose I could get better at it and make my odds better over time.

But then I got to thinking, is this "match manipulation"? If so, I don't want to do it again. If not, it was rather fun to play w/ my friend the few times it worked.

I'm patiently waiting your responses.

Juze · Jun 04, 2010, 08:48 AM // 08:48

Updated for the last time I think. I believe this makes it clear for everyone what is allowed and what is not. Cheers.

Mortal Showdown · Jun 07, 2010, 09:17 PM // 21:17

I always use a timer for drunkard points so my clicks are always pretty accurately after my drunkness goes away like a sec or something, am I into trouble?

vamp08 · Jun 08, 2010, 02:33 AM // 02:33

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Originally Posted by luetkemd

This thread mostly discusses 3rd party software, so my question is a little off topic, but seemed to fit here anyways.

Last week a friend asked me to play some RA with him. That seemed odd since the matches are random. He said if we hit "enter battle" at the exact same time, there was a chance we'd play together. We did that and it worked maybe 30% of the time. I suppose I could get better at it and make my odds better over time.

But then I got to thinking, is this "match manipulation"? If so, I don't want to do it again. If not, it was rather fun to play w/ my friend the few times it worked.

I'm patiently waiting your responses.

There is no official story on wether match manipulation (which, yes...you did participate in) is bannable. There never will be either, because if there was 2/4ths of the population would simultaneously be dhuumscythed for RR'day. The guild my friend was in got demolished because the leader (a girl, imagine that) and the members activley took part in JQ and RA syncing.

However, it seems ANet has a slightly better attitutde toward people who break the rules while they sit in their chair. For now I'd say you are in the green, however only untill a "BAN THE SYNCERS!!" thread pops up on guru and forces ANet to do their jobs.

Motoko · Jun 08, 2010, 04:01 AM // 04:01

Someone should post specific maintained links approved by anet that contain allowed in original form programs.

The list of links should be unchangeable by anyone except a trusted person and the list should be stickied.